Preventing Lag Machines on the server - Ideas

1) Objection. Banning Redstone underground completely on the whole server would in my opinion be a bad idea, as well as I have no idea how we are going to do it. (this is why I’m not a developer). It’ll minimise a lot of builds. Maybe we could make it so you can build underground Redstone builds in the plotworld, admin world and the Master Builders world. And block it in the other worlds. This means operators can make Redstone underground but have to go to the plotworld (where they have access to).

2) Objection, although this is a good way to prevent players from making the machine, 1.15 just got out and many players want to use the new version and well maybe even want to play on TotalFreedom. If we would limit it to 1.14.4 we do have a chance of getting less players.
If you meant with only allowing 1.14+ I’d still object, I’m very happy with that I can finally join on the server on 1.8 and add I said above, I’d lower the playercount on the server. And we already don’t have that many players online and this will make it worse.

3) Vouch. I’m not sure if we already have a system like this but it’d be very useful, especially when administrators are offline (or for some reason being online but being AFK). Maybe we could merge this with a mob purge and entity wipe as well.

4) Well, no. As I already suggested at number 1, blocking it in the flatlands (and overworld (if that’s still a thing)) and allowing it in the plotworld and Adminworld (and Master Builder world) would be enough. In the plotworld, they can’t make flying machines. And it’s not a difficult thing to just do /plot auto and go and start your project.


And as I just read before making this message, number 4 turns out to be a joke.

1)Neutral
Not sure how it will be implemented, but if it does the task successfully, I don't see how it's bad.
However, if we intend to attempt this method, it should be more clearly defined rather than just saying "Underground".
As of now, there's no clear way to see how it's executed or defined, but I'll stay open-minded, hence the neutral.

2) Object.
Reasoning as Taze.

3) Well, "I" came up with it. You guess my stance.

Not trying to hijack the thread or powerpost or anything, but I honestly don't see downsides to server automatically "halting" itself when TPS is sufficiently low
This would include probably WorldEdit queues, redstone, entities and any sort of stuff that would cause such lag in the first place.

No. This is a terrible idea, as it restricts the core mechanics of Minecraft for certain blocks. This would harm the operators' freedom greatly with very little benefits.

No. This does more harm than good in many ways.

Although I see where you're going with this, I personally believe that this can be exploited to restrict other people's freedom by lagging the server using other methods. Also, this would restrict freedom because of the off-chance that the server lags by natural means (such as having two Minecraft servers running simultaneously on the same machine).

In conclusion, I object for all 3.

1. If it is too hard to find lag machines that are underground, the solution is to make it easier to find lag machines that are underground, not to block more things. The server can monitor heavy redstone activity and give exact coordinates.
2. The solution is worse than the problem.
3. Do any of the common lag machines actually cause TPS lag? I am under the impression that it's mostly about the FPS of nearby players, in which case this would have no effect at all.

1) no
2) no
3) no

therefore i conclude my statement

1. Nay

2. Not

3. Never

No please, I'm not on board with these ideas exactly "helping", 2 is probably the worse one yet.