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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 0:38:04 GMT
1. Minecraft name:
RealZaid
2. Discord username and identifier (if any):
Zaid#2739
3. Approximate date of perm ban:
1/17/2020
4. Reason for perm ban. Please do not lie and try to be sincere and apologize as applicable:
According to this thread, I was forum banned for personal attacks and flame wars. However, all of the forum posts linked contained no form of personal attacks but were rather just me arguing against a suspension that turned out to be unwarranted either way. All of the Discord screenshots included were from a private group DM, not from TF's Discord. There is no policy that says I can be banned for something I said outside of TotalFreedom's official channels.
5. Do you agree to follow our server banning procedures (see totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/21065/) and the rules in place on the forum (https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/8134), and all the conditions stated above?
Yes
6. Please provide the one IP that you will be using to login to the server. If you don't know it, visit ip4.me and cut and paste the result. All other IPs that you used to get perm banned will remain perm banned. Don't provide a VPN IP.
108.202.164.110
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Video
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An op's rights activist
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Post by Video on Jan 19, 2020 0:42:51 GMT
No.
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Post by SupItsDillon on Jan 19, 2020 0:43:25 GMT
object should still wait out the time it's like a week and a half use it to reflect and shit idk
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Alco RS11
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my old account is back.
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Post by Alco RS11 on Jan 19, 2020 0:45:19 GMT
I Object. He needs to wait a bit longer. (Serve his 2 weeks before thinking about appealing)
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 19, 2020 0:47:07 GMT
I vouch.
This ban is erroneous because it had zero basis in the rules of this server, it is a forum sanction yet the forum rules were not violated in a way which warranted a sanction (again, anybody else could be permbanned for what he actually got permbanned for). He was permbanned from the server as a result of the sanction through a conduct policy rule which is almost never executed but was in this case against him in particular, and the rule was also retroactively modified after he was banned from the discord server despite the fact that it originally did not have him being banned from the discord.
He is not 100% in the right here, but the way in which he was went after absolutely has no place on this server. Proper evidence and basis in the rules is required to permban/sanction somebody. If we set the precedent that this permban was correct, then anybody on this server is open to being sanctioned or permbanned simply for showing attitude in defiance of those in power on this server, and that is a dangerous precedent to be setting on a server which envisions total freedom within reason.
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97
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RIP Telnet
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Post by 97 on Jan 19, 2020 0:47:15 GMT
I didn't know he got perm banned for real, I know Wilee made a post about it but I could have sworn he was just banned for 2 weeks.
Anyways, I guess he did get perm banned, and I object because he needs to wait longer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 0:53:32 GMT
I object, based on this evidence: Well, in my eyes, I don't see it as just a joke. Yes it wasn't on the discord server, but I don't want him on any of our platforms for two weeks until he cools off. The messages were sent in a group chat of friends that I was in. It was interpreted as a personal attack by Nero, and upon review it looks like to me and other admins that it was such, therefore he was sanctioned. And I personally banned him from the discord server. Nero had nothing to do with removing his roles, but because I believe Nero was jewish, Zaid automatically assumed it was her. I do not want anyone in power especially the EAO being discriminatory. More evidence: i.imgur.com/EE1l5UU.png and video.doesnt-have-a.life/gOpSy0WZkxZE.pngI rest my case. But if you still want to object to it you can. His biggest argument I see here is the fact it was in a private group chat. I do not care where this was said. Harassment of my staff team or being discriminatory while in power is not going to fly on my server. If he would of just took it normally and not lose his shit and start firing off anti-Semitic comments he wouldn't be banned right now. It was because of those comments he is banned for two weeks. I'll say it again, as the owner of this server, I clearly have to remove anyone from power who acts like that towards any of my community members and staff. That's how it works. And as an added bonus, I am going to ban them if I believe it's deserved. I guess I need to change a rule to make that clear. |
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Video
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Post by Video on Jan 19, 2020 0:55:00 GMT
All of the Discord screenshots included were from a private group DM, not from TF's Discord. Incorrect. The screenshots that Seth posted (the ones hosted on video.doesnt-have-a.life) were taken by me directly from the TF Discord, in public channels.    |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 1:00:26 GMT
Object
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neroblackcat
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rip sig.grumpybumpers
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Post by neroblackcat on Jan 19, 2020 1:19:37 GMT
Object.
All I did was make a forum sanction for temporary removal (~2 weeks). He did break forums rules and started flame wars even after being reminded of the rules (and then proceeded to harass me elsewhere after already constantly calling me out for being a jew). It isn't my fault people can't read the forum rules. He can wait a couple weeks.
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mattlawn
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Post by mattlawn on Jan 19, 2020 1:24:18 GMT
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Fleek
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Post by Fleek on Jan 19, 2020 1:43:06 GMT
I object, the reason is already stated in other people’s posts.
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Darth
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Post by Darth on Jan 19, 2020 1:50:17 GMT
Even if none of the messages were on the TF Discord (which some were btw), jobs can and will fire you if you do stupid shit outside of the workplace - this is no different.
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?Robin
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caleb get off of tf
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Post by ?Robin on Jan 19, 2020 1:55:20 GMT
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Lemon
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Post by Lemon on Jan 19, 2020 2:29:02 GMT
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