kai
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Post by kai on Jan 17, 2020 22:30:04 GMT
to those of you objecting due to the recent suspensions that me and ivan were included in, robin said himself that they were warranted wrongly. which means Ivan didn't do anything wrong. at this point you're just holding a grudge against him and hoping that you can get rid of him for good. there should be no reason to object, because this is a reinstatement against him resigning, not against a suspension - and ive never seen anyone object against someone who simply resigned. (This doesn't apply to ragequitters, because I don't believe that what Ivan did counts as ragequitting. He talked to me before he was ever suspended that he was considering resignation due to the ongoing drama of this server, so i have reason to believe that the drama being directed towards him in the form of a suspension was enough to make him want to leave.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 23:00:22 GMT
to those of you objecting due to the recent suspensions that me and ivan were included in, robin said himself that they were warranted wrongly. which means Ivan didn't do anything wrong. at this point you're just holding a grudge against him and hoping that you can get rid of him for good. there should be no reason to object, because this is a reinstatement against him resigning, not against a suspension - and ive never seen anyone object against someone who simply resigned. (This doesn't apply to ragequitters, because I don't believe that what Ivan did counts as ragequitting. He talked to me before he was ever suspended that he was considering resignation due to the ongoing drama of this server, so i have reason to believe that the drama being directed towards him in the form of a suspension was enough to make him want to leave.) We’re objecting to the fact that Ivan hasn’t proved in any remote way that he’s not the same Ivan who started all this mess in the first place. Suspended or not, punished or not, his behavior was unacceptable for a person in the highest two positions we have in the community. One of which, was explicitly defined by the founder of TF, to this day, as a “role model” position. It’s more than reasonable for that “role model”, to simply demonstrate he’s living up to that standard. Plain and simple. The ball is in Ivan’s court.
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Post by square on Jan 17, 2020 23:18:23 GMT
to those of you objecting due to the recent suspensions that me and ivan were included in, robin said himself that they were warranted wrongly. which means Ivan didn't do anything wrong. at this point you're just holding a grudge against him and hoping that you can get rid of him for good. there should be no reason to object, because this is a reinstatement against him resigning, not against a suspension - and ive never seen anyone object against someone who simply resigned. (This doesn't apply to ragequitters, because I don't believe that what Ivan did counts as ragequitting. He talked to me before he was ever suspended that he was considering resignation due to the ongoing drama of this server, so i have reason to believe that the drama being directed towards him in the form of a suspension was enough to make him want to leave.) We’re objecting to the fact that Ivan hasn’t proved in any remote way that he’s not the same Ivan who started all this mess in the first place. Suspended or not, punished or not, his behavior was unacceptable for a person in the highest two positions we have in the community. One of which, was explicitly defined by the founder of TF, to this day, as a “role model” position. It’s more than reasonable for that “role model”, to simply demonstrate he’s living up to that standard. Plain and simple. The ball is in Ivan’s court. you're not we're* vouch, ivan has done lots for the server and for the jokes i have seen aren't that `extreme ` - it is clear that it's a joke
also i don't think ivan started this? he's been quite calm for the screenshots i've seen anyways i haven't been here for a while so coming back to this isn't the best edit: and as kai and ivan has said, why does he need to prove something where he has done nothing wrong? he's clearly apologetic and is trying to get this behind him so what is he meant to do?
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kai
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Post by kai on Jan 17, 2020 23:28:31 GMT
to those of you objecting due to the recent suspensions that me and ivan were included in, robin said himself that they were warranted wrongly. which means Ivan didn't do anything wrong. at this point you're just holding a grudge against him and hoping that you can get rid of him for good. there should be no reason to object, because this is a reinstatement against him resigning, not against a suspension - and ive never seen anyone object against someone who simply resigned. (This doesn't apply to ragequitters, because I don't believe that what Ivan did counts as ragequitting. He talked to me before he was ever suspended that he was considering resignation due to the ongoing drama of this server, so i have reason to believe that the drama being directed towards him in the form of a suspension was enough to make him want to leave.) We’re objecting to the fact that Ivan hasn’t proved in any remote way that he’s not the same Ivan who started all this mess in the first place. Suspended or not, punished or not, his behavior was unacceptable for a person in the highest two positions we have in the community. One of which, was explicitly defined by the founder of TF, to this day, as a “role model” position. It’s more than reasonable for that “role model”, to simply demonstrate he’s living up to that standard. Plain and simple. The ball is in Ivan’s court. he didn't "start" anything. as he said earlier, he made a joke that people took way out of hand, as you are doing now. you're dragging this out to be way longer than it should be. we've all apologized, been given apologies, and moved on. none of this even involved you yet you're still all bent out of shape over the ordeal, which only happened because Robin was being overly cautious. if me and bram get our positions given back, there is absolutely no reason ivan should be the only one punished by waiting for his. end of story. also, unacceptable behavior with the highest two positions? he was the assistant to an eao who went completely batshit crazy over being removed. i don't think we should be throwing those words around when there are obviously much more severe cases.
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Post by super on Jan 17, 2020 23:53:23 GMT
vouch
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 4:07:41 GMT
Reinstated to full status.
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