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Post by Video on Jan 9, 2020 18:23:53 GMT
Users have complained that sometimes they can't connect to the server and other times it requires multiple attempts in order to get into the server. This issue has been discovered to be caused by our hosting provider throttling us like crazy, with an upload speed of around 4.15 megabits per second. We have also had issues in the past with not only throttling, but also data loss.
For the sake of playability, I suggest that we move hosting providers to something like OVH, a hosting provider that never actually gave us any issues.
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jan 9, 2020 19:24:30 GMT
Main reference for this: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/65722/connectFor budget hosts, you pretty much have three options: Hetzner, OVH, and Scaleway. There is not a single best from these three, but it makes sense to try a different one if there are issues that can only be attributed to the host. |
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Post by _Windows on Jan 9, 2020 20:24:32 GMT
The advantage to OVH is a solid upload speed. Network lag is basically non-existent on OVH from my experience. The CPUs they use for the VPS services are lacking in single-thread performance though.
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Post by ?Robin on Jan 9, 2020 21:31:10 GMT
Main reference for this: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/65722/connectFor budget hosts, you pretty much have three options: Hetzner, OVH, and Scaleway. There is not a single best from these three, but it makes sense to try a different one if there are issues that can only be attributed to the host. hetzner seems appealing, have you ever tried it yourself? |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 9, 2020 22:29:11 GMT
Main reference for this: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/65722/connectFor budget hosts, you pretty much have three options: Hetzner, OVH, and Scaleway. There is not a single best from these three, but it makes sense to try a different one if there are issues that can only be attributed to the host. hetzner seems appealing, have you ever tried it yourself? I've used it (I think I still have one of their server) and a friend used it for a while for a large Plex instance and it was pretty good. I think we also probably should prove that this is the issue, and if so it's worth reaching out to the host to see what they can do before you just up and move. I'd recommend OVH if you're looking at moving, or something like AWS / Azure if you're looking for a more premium & cloud platform. |
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jan 9, 2020 22:42:36 GMT
Main reference for this: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/65722/connectFor budget hosts, you pretty much have three options: Hetzner, OVH, and Scaleway. There is not a single best from these three, but it makes sense to try a different one if there are issues that can only be attributed to the host. hetzner seems appealing, have you ever tried it yourself? Not personally, but I know a lot of people who have been having good experiences with them for Minecraft. something like AWS / Azure if you're looking for a more premium & cloud platform I highly recommend against this. Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud, and Microsoft Azure are all terrible value for Minecraft: they are not meant to run a CPU-intensive application 24/7. The performance will not be bad, it will just cost you a disproportionate amount of money at no conceivable benefit compared to a high-end dedicated server (because that is the cost range you will be in). |
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Post by Telesphoreo on Jan 10, 2020 0:15:43 GMT
^ i can confirm this about AWS. ran a server there a while ago. i personally use ovh now. i've had no issues with the internet. even the basic plan that i have (vps ssd 3 2016, 40gb ssd, 8gb ram, 2 vcores) handles mc well. i ran a bungee network that had a max of 20 players distributed on 4 servers. more recently i've ran a server that had 5 players with no lag on 1.13. obviously we have more than 5 players, but maybe something more expensive from ovh would handle more players. here's a speedtest from my vps btw:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 2:55:29 GMT
I'll switch to Hetzner once I get paid, I just made the server payment not even a week ago.
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 10, 2020 17:51:28 GMT
I highly recommend against this. Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud, and Microsoft Azure are all terrible value for Minecraft: they are not meant to run a CPU-intensive application 24/7. The performance will not be bad, it will just cost you a disproportionate amount of money at no conceivable benefit compared to a high-end dedicated server (because that is the cost range you will be in). Your issue there is you're looking at this from a financial point of view only... AWS and the other cloud providers are a good option because you have guaranteed platforms behind them, which are used at an enterprise grade regularly and are expected to perform to those levels 100% of the time. Hetzner is certainly more hobbiest, and OVH is targeting more professionals, but at the point you're heavily using OVH in enterprise, you're generally at the size you can afford to rent data centre space and work out more cost effective. Not saying I'd personally move to AWS, but it's certainly something I wouldn't rule out if stability and performance is your main priority here. |
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jan 10, 2020 19:29:00 GMT
I highly recommend against this. Amazon Web Services, Google Cloud, and Microsoft Azure are all terrible value for Minecraft: they are not meant to run a CPU-intensive application 24/7. The performance will not be bad, it will just cost you a disproportionate amount of money at no conceivable benefit compared to a high-end dedicated server (because that is the cost range you will be in). Your issue there is you're looking at this from a financial point of view only... AWS and the other cloud providers are a good option because you have guaranteed platforms behind them, which are used at an enterprise grade regularly and are expected to perform to those levels 100% of the time. Hetzner is certainly more hobbiest, and OVH is targeting more professionals, but at the point you're heavily using OVH in enterprise, you're generally at the size you can afford to rent data centre space and work out more cost effective. Not saying I'd personally move to AWS, but it's certainly something I wouldn't rule out if stability and performance is your main priority here. If you have a dedicated server and your computing performance drops, it's not your host's fault. As for stability, you can already get a 99.99% SLA from OVH. If the last 0.01% matters to you, you were never going to consider a budget host in the first place. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 10, 2020 23:11:44 GMT
Your issue there is you're looking at this from a financial point of view only... AWS and the other cloud providers are a good option because you have guaranteed platforms behind them, which are used at an enterprise grade regularly and are expected to perform to those levels 100% of the time. Hetzner is certainly more hobbiest, and OVH is targeting more professionals, but at the point you're heavily using OVH in enterprise, you're generally at the size you can afford to rent data centre space and work out more cost effective. Not saying I'd personally move to AWS, but it's certainly something I wouldn't rule out if stability and performance is your main priority here. If you have a dedicated server and your computing performance drops, it's not your host's fault. As for stability, you can already get a 99.99% SLA from OVH. If the last 0.01% matters to you, you were never going to consider a budget host in the first place. It's not the computing performance that I was trying to explain, it's the overall performance, the compute, the network, the support, the scalability. Ultimately a budget host isn't always worth it. Also, the 99.99% SLA is entirely unrealistic for one thing, but also near impossible to claim off. I've had outages for multiple days before and unless you take them to court for breach of contract, it doesn't mean shit just as a FYI. |
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