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Post by shrimp on Jan 5, 2020 4:47:48 GMT
hello guys, as the title suggests, im looking for a new monitor. i've had the one i'm currently using for like 4 or 5 years and it's not the worst but also not the best, and i really would like to use it as a secondary monitor. i'd like it to be 1440p or 144hz, or the best case scenario which would be both. i'd like to keep it under 300-350 USD, but i suppose i could wait a bit and work a few more hours so that i could buy one that's 400 or 500, but i probably wont unless i need to (90% of all of my money goes towards my savings or telescope gear). thanks all! i know _Windows is into this sort of thing so i'd love to get his opinion
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 5, 2020 6:15:00 GMT
Just buy a $100 1080p Samsung/Dell monitor or whatever brand from the store (avoid Acer), if you're really looking to save money then don't buy a 1440p monitor, it's a gimmick that you won't find to be worth it later. 1080p is more than enough quality for anyone to enjoy and the extra $200 for a shitty 1440p monitor could go to something better. Especially if you already have a monitor.
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Post by zeseryu on Jan 5, 2020 6:45:43 GMT
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Post by shrimp on Jan 5, 2020 7:16:33 GMT
damn that looks really nice, i'll do some research. thanks a bunch
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Post by _Windows on Jan 5, 2020 13:57:47 GMT
For certain games, 4k can make a huge difference in tecture quality and immersion. Text is much sharper too. 1080p is good for budget but that doesn't mean that other options are not worth considering.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 5, 2020 20:19:41 GMT
I have a 1440p 144hz monitor and dont agree at all with Polaris. I previously used and still use (side monitor) a 1080p monitor and 1440p 27 inch is so much bigger and looks a lot nicer than my old one. Keep in mind 1440p is more taxing on your computer so make sure your components can keep up. "So much better" is not relevant when discussing the difference between 1080p and 1440p. The differences you notice likely have nothing to do with 1440p. As a human being with a human brain and human eyes, you don't care whether it's 1440p or 1080p because you either won't notice the difference or won't care. You mention refresh rate and size, but you could have that with any other resolution without 1440p. It's different if you're trying to have a TV to watch movies because with that resolution becomes more highlighted, although still not anywhere near important as size and refresh rate. 4k mostly exists for marketing so that hardware companies and monitor/TV sellers make more money because people will be more than happy to cough up a few hundred more dollars for something they won't notice if it's hyped up enough.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 5, 2020 20:30:49 GMT
For certain games, 4k can make a huge difference in tecture quality and immersion. Text is much sharper too. 1080p is good for budget but that doesn't mean that other options are not worth considering. It depends on how much money is willing to be spent. If you want 4k, then you're also going to want a higher refresh rate. At that point, you're probably also going to want a larger sized screen. Then you're going to want a better GPU. And then you'll have spent hundreds of dollars that could've been saved. For some people that doesn't matter, though, and they will be happy to spend hundreds of dollars again in 2 years when more crap is being marketed to everybody. Point is you're either going to do it the way of spending hundreds of dollars for the full setup (4k, 144hz, larger size, hardware to support it), or you'll just have 4k in which case you've literally just wasted money, or you'll have 1080p & maybe a higher refresh rate and have more money saved and that's fine because 1080p is absolutely fine for pretty much everything.
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Post by zeseryu on Jan 5, 2020 22:33:12 GMT
I have a 1440p 144hz monitor and dont agree at all with Polaris. I previously used and still use (side monitor) a 1080p monitor and 1440p 27 inch is so much bigger and looks a lot nicer than my old one. Keep in mind 1440p is more taxing on your computer so make sure your components can keep up. "So much better" is not relevant when discussing the difference between 1080p and 1440p. The differences you notice likely have nothing to do with 1440p. As a human being with a human brain and human eyes, you don't care whether it's 1440p or 1080p because you either won't notice the difference or won't care. You mention refresh rate and size, but you could have that with any other resolution without 1440p. It's different if you're trying to have a TV to watch movies because with that resolution becomes more highlighted, although still not anywhere near important as size and refresh rate. 4k mostly exists for marketing so that hardware companies and monitor/TV sellers make more money because people will be more than happy to cough up a few hundred more dollars for something they won't notice if it's hyped up enough. no i think its so much better from personal experience.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 5, 2020 22:36:37 GMT
"So much better" is not relevant when discussing the difference between 1080p and 1440p. The differences you notice likely have nothing to do with 1440p. As a human being with a human brain and human eyes, you don't care whether it's 1440p or 1080p because you either won't notice the difference or won't care. You mention refresh rate and size, but you could have that with any other resolution without 1440p. It's different if you're trying to have a TV to watch movies because with that resolution becomes more highlighted, although still not anywhere near important as size and refresh rate. 4k mostly exists for marketing so that hardware companies and monitor/TV sellers make more money because people will be more than happy to cough up a few hundred more dollars for something they won't notice if it's hyped up enough. no i think its so much better from personal experience. That doesn't mean much anything though, it's like going to a car dealership and the seller tells you all of these features that a particular car has which you don't care about or won't use, and then you fall for the trap and buy the car and think that it's "so much better". Just means that the marketing worked on you and you 'think' it's so much better, that's how the human brain works. If one day your monitor magically became 1080p there is a 99% chance you wouldn't notice.
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Post by zeseryu on Jan 5, 2020 22:46:21 GMT
no i think its so much better from personal experience. That doesn't mean much anything though, it's like going to a car dealership and the seller tells you all of these features that a particular car has which you don't care about or won't use, and then you fall for the trap and buy the car and think that it's "so much better". Just means that the marketing worked on you and you 'think' it's so much better, that's how the human brain works. If one day your monitor magically became 1080p there is a 99% chance you wouldn't notice. i sit my 1440p monitor right by my 1080p. the 1440p looks a lot better. Games I've played for hundreds of hours looked better when i upgraded. When i play on a 1080p screen it looks worse. its not "marketing" I've used both monitors for awhile and there is a clear difference
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 5, 2020 22:55:39 GMT
That doesn't mean much anything though, it's like going to a car dealership and the seller tells you all of these features that a particular car has which you don't care about or won't use, and then you fall for the trap and buy the car and think that it's "so much better". Just means that the marketing worked on you and you 'think' it's so much better, that's how the human brain works. If one day your monitor magically became 1080p there is a 99% chance you wouldn't notice. i sit my 1440p monitor right by my 1080p. the 1440p looks a lot better. Games I've played for hundreds of hours looked better when i upgraded. When i play on a 1080p screen it looks worse. its not "marketing" I've used both monitors for awhile and there is a clear difference You're leaving out context such as what monitor it is, what refresh rate it is, hardware/software support for it, and the size of it. There are many key factors that go into these comparisons that are more important than just the resolution.
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Post by _Windows on Jan 5, 2020 23:03:32 GMT
i sit my 1440p monitor right by my 1080p. the 1440p looks a lot better. Games I've played for hundreds of hours looked better when i upgraded. When i play on a 1080p screen it looks worse. its not "marketing" I've used both monitors for awhile and there is a clear difference You're leaving out context such as what monitor it is, what refresh rate it is, hardware/software support for it, and the size of it. There are many key factors that go into these comparisons that are more important than just the resolution. Resolution alone can provide for crisper looking textures in 3D games, and text is also crisper looking. Going from 1080p to 2160p (4K) made a massive difference in racing games where you can see details of the car's dashboard much easier.
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Post by Premintex on Jan 5, 2020 23:33:36 GMT
i sit my 1440p monitor right by my 1080p. the 1440p looks a lot better. Games I've played for hundreds of hours looked better when i upgraded. When i play on a 1080p screen it looks worse. its not "marketing" I've used both monitors for awhile and there is a clear difference You're leaving out context such as what monitor it is, what refresh rate it is, hardware/software support for it, and the size of it. There are many key factors that go into these comparisons that are more important than just the resolution. I don't understand how you're claiming personal experience is wrong. 1440p looks way, way better and there are infinite cases where you can easily tell the difference, and those cases are not just specified to fit my description, you can find them everywhere, including this forum. I assume what you're saying is that we think 1440p is good because we expect it to be good but as I said, there are lots and lots of cases that are experienced all the time, everywhere. It genuinely feels like you never experienced 1440p but you want it to be bad
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 6, 2020 1:17:48 GMT
You're leaving out context such as what monitor it is, what refresh rate it is, hardware/software support for it, and the size of it. There are many key factors that go into these comparisons that are more important than just the resolution. I don't understand how you're claiming personal experience is wrong. 1440p looks way, way better and there are infinite cases where you can easily tell the difference, and those cases are not just specified to fit my description, you can find them everywhere, including this forum. I assume what you're saying is that we think 1440p is good because we expect it to be good but as I said, there are lots and lots of cases that are experienced all the time, everywhere. It genuinely feels like you never experienced 1440p but you want it to be bad Misrepresentation of what I said. 1440p is not bad, claiming that a higher resolution is bad is retarded. 1440p is objectively better than 1080p, nobody is contesting that. What I'm saying is that when you factor price, it is mostly useless to go for a 1440p monitor over a 1080p one. 1440p is an unnecessary middle-ground between 1080p and 4K. If for whatever ridiculous reason you just can't tolerate 1080p, then at that point you would just go for 4K. If you hate 1080p that much, then you wouldn't find a 1440p experience to be exponentially better than that. Factors such as refresh rate are generally more important especially with gaming.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 6, 2020 1:19:09 GMT
You're leaving out context such as what monitor it is, what refresh rate it is, hardware/software support for it, and the size of it. There are many key factors that go into these comparisons that are more important than just the resolution. Resolution alone can provide for crisper looking textures in 3D games, and text is also crisper looking. Going from 1080p to 2160p (4K) made a massive difference in racing games where you can see details of the car's dashboard much easier. I'm sure it did, but I'm specifically talking about 1440p. 4K has a reason to exist, it is a very significant upgrade from 1080p. See my last post on this.
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