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Post by square on Nov 7, 2019 22:32:24 GMT
opinions? deciding between RTX 2060 (£350~), RX 5700 XT (£400~) or RTX 2060 SUPER (£420~). currently picked 5700, budget is around £1000 (no higher than £1100) uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NbDwhg
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Nov 7, 2019 22:55:17 GMT
Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Nov 7, 2019 22:55:17 GMT
Ditch the AMD for an Intel Core i5 and it'll be fine. Also go with a GeForce GTX 1050 for graphics.
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Post by square on Nov 7, 2019 23:28:05 GMT
Ditch the AMD for an Intel Core i5 and it'll be fine. Also go with a GeForce GTX 1050 for graphics. was previously getting an i5 9600K however the motherboard I picked is apparently good (only for Ryzen ib) and although the i5 has a better FPS (5-10 FPS more) the Ryzen has 6 more threads. also I want more than a 1050 since i’m going ultra graphics on every game (2060 is basically same performance as a 1070 ti or 1080 but cheaper where i live and the amd graphics card is around about a 2060/70 super)
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Nov 7, 2019 23:45:48 GMT
Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Nov 7, 2019 23:45:48 GMT
Ditch the AMD for an Intel Core i5 and it'll be fine. Also go with a GeForce GTX 1050 for graphics. was previously getting an i5 9600K however the motherboard I picked is apparently good (only for Ryzen ib) and although the i5 has a better FPS (5-10 FPS more) the Ryzen has 6 more threads. also I want more than a 1050 since i’m going ultra graphics on every game (2060 is basically same performance as a 1070 ti or 1080 but cheaper where i live and the amd graphics card is around about a 2060/70 super) Going with the Ryzen over threads even though you admit the i5 brings better FPS is irrational because depending on the operating system and applications you use you won't notice the performance increase with the Ryzen. Most applications you use and even your operating system aren't made to be perfectly efficient with handling of multiple threads, and in fact in all likelihood you'll be dealing with applications that use a single thread in which case you won't notice the multithreaded performance increase at all, whereas Intel has higher single threaded performance which not only means that you'll get more with a single thread which is realistically beneficial. NVIDIA has also been proven to beat AMD with any of its high-performance GPUs.
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Post by square on Nov 8, 2019 7:46:50 GMT
was previously getting an i5 9600K however the motherboard I picked is apparently good (only for Ryzen ib) and although the i5 has a better FPS (5-10 FPS more) the Ryzen has 6 more threads. also I want more than a 1050 since i’m going ultra graphics on every game (2060 is basically same performance as a 1070 ti or 1080 but cheaper where i live and the amd graphics card is around about a 2060/70 super) Going with the Ryzen over threads even though you admit the i5 brings better FPS is irrational because depending on the operating system and applications you use you won't notice the performance increase with the Ryzen. Most applications you use and even your operating system aren't made to be perfectly efficient with handling of multiple threads, and in fact in all likelihood you'll be dealing with applications that use a single thread in which case you won't notice the multithreaded performance increase at all, whereas Intel has higher single threaded performance which not only means that you'll get more with a single thread which is realistically beneficial. NVIDIA has also been proven to beat AMD with any of its high-performance GPUs. going back to i5 9600K, however still picking between the gpus (seen many reviews and tests on both sides, amd gpu ~ RTX 2070 super ~ GTX 1080 however cheaper) also I need a new motherboard
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Post by Lemon on Nov 8, 2019 10:21:01 GMT
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Nov 8, 2019 15:11:20 GMT
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Post by square on Nov 8, 2019 15:11:20 GMT
seems good, why the 2060 super over the amd? (and all the other changes)
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Nov 8, 2019 15:58:33 GMT
Post by square on Nov 8, 2019 15:58:33 GMT
seems good, why the 2060 super over the amd? (and all the other changes) uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/C8H7TCcore i5-9600KF sapphire nitro+ rx 5700 xt (equivalent to 2070 super but 2060 super price, not needing raytracing) cooler master hyper 212 asus tuf z390-plus (motherboard, unsure if good or not) vengeance lpx 16gb wd caviar blue 1tb intel 660p 512 gb (unsure why i need 512 gigs for windows only) nzxt h510 (good case) rmx 2018 modular ps (good power supply)
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Nov 9, 2019 2:05:43 GMT
Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Nov 9, 2019 2:05:43 GMT
seems good, why the 2060 super over the amd? (and all the other changes) uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/C8H7TCcore i5-9600KF sapphire nitro+ rx 5700 xt (equivalent to 2070 super but 2060 super price, not needing raytracing) cooler master hyper 212 asus tuf z390-plus (motherboard, unsure if good or not) vengeance lpx 16gb wd caviar blue 1tb intel 660p 512 gb (unsure why i need 512 gigs for windows only) nzxt h510 (good case) rmx 2018 modular ps (good power supply) Why would you go with an objectively inferior AMD GPU over NVIDIA?
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Post by square on Nov 9, 2019 10:58:54 GMT
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/C8H7TCcore i5-9600KF sapphire nitro+ rx 5700 xt (equivalent to 2070 super but 2060 super price, not needing raytracing) cooler master hyper 212 asus tuf z390-plus (motherboard, unsure if good or not) vengeance lpx 16gb wd caviar blue 1tb intel 660p 512 gb (unsure why i need 512 gigs for windows only) nzxt h510 (good case) rmx 2018 modular ps (good power supply) Why would you go with an objectively inferior AMD GPU over NVIDIA? again, numerous benchmarks i have seen have pictured this: 2070 SUPER (£480) = RX 5700 XT (£380) > 2070 (£460) > 2060 SUPER (£400) > RTX 2060 (£300) > GTX 1070/GTX 1070 TI (300/440)
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Post by Fleek on Nov 9, 2019 11:20:00 GMT
Why would you go with an objectively inferior AMD GPU over NVIDIA? again, numerous benchmarks i have seen have pictured this: 2070 SUPER (£480) = RX 5700 XT (£380) > 2070 (£460) > 2060 SUPER (£400) > RTX 2060 (£300) > GTX 1070/GTX 1070 TI (300/440) But RX 5700 XT can overheat easily
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Post by square on Nov 9, 2019 12:38:16 GMT
again, numerous benchmarks i have seen have pictured this: 2070 SUPER (£480) = RX 5700 XT (£380) > 2070 (£460) > 2060 SUPER (£400) > RTX 2060 (£300) > GTX 1070/GTX 1070 TI (300/440) But RX 5700 XT can overheat easily true however i have good room ventilation and i don't believe will be that big of a problem and also apparently it's designed that way edit: checked more benchmarks, either i go with a 5700 xt which is 10 more degrees than a 2060 super or go with a 2060 super which has less fps personally still thinking 5700 xt
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Nov 9, 2019 21:06:48 GMT
Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Nov 9, 2019 21:06:48 GMT
But RX 5700 XT can overheat easily true however i have good room ventilation and i don't believe will be that big of a problem and also apparently it's designed that way edit: checked more benchmarks, either i go with a 5700 xt which is 10 more degrees than a 2060 super or go with a 2060 super which has less fps personally still thinking 5700 xt I don't know where you're getting your benchmarks, but it's been known standard in the industry for about 10 years that GeForce GTX beats out AMD Radeon in realistic use any day of the week. There is a difference between on-paper use and realistic use. It is objective fact that for what you actually use GTX will be better, and the combination with an Intel CPU is excellent. Just a GTX 1050 Ti will bring you all the performance you need unless you're doing 3D engineering which you probably aren't.
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Post by square on Nov 9, 2019 21:31:33 GMT
true however i have good room ventilation and i don't believe will be that big of a problem and also apparently it's designed that way edit: checked more benchmarks, either i go with a 5700 xt which is 10 more degrees than a 2060 super or go with a 2060 super which has less fps personally still thinking 5700 xt I don't know where you're getting your benchmarks, but it's been known standard in the industry for about 10 years that GeForce GTX beats out AMD Radeon in realistic use any day of the week. There is a difference between on-paper use and realistic use. It is objective fact that for what you actually use GTX will be better, and the combination with an Intel CPU is excellent. Just a GTX 1050 Ti will bring you all the performance you need unless you're doing 3D engineering which you probably aren't. www.youtube.com/watch?v=oej2ev3g-sMwww.youtube.com/watch?v=yXv3Zwd16hkwww.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbi_-08CMN0www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7zFCX0zHIYwww.youtube.com/watch?v=D1FeTTh7ePAwww.youtube.com/watch?v=fkA-yCrl_A4www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSPtHQfznccand more also a 1050 ti won't be enough for both: 1) ultra on high-end games
2) future proofing for 5-10+ years
the 5700 xt and 5700 are just good cards compared to nvidia. however, the other cards lack the peformance compared to the gtx and rtx series (which i think is what you're talking about).
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Nov 9, 2019 22:50:04 GMT
Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Nov 9, 2019 22:50:04 GMT
I find it funny how you mention future proofing when AMD's business model is short-term, present successes, whereas NVIDIA's entire business model is based around future proofing. NVIDIA employs top mathematicians to discover every day new ways to optimize their GPUs in a way which will be more significant in the future instead of worrying about what we expect for high performance today. Except you can't even argue that AMD is currently faster than NVIDIA when considering that their top performance GPUs beat out AMD's. All of AMD's present successes are things that they could have done a decade ago, but they chose not to do it, and in the future they will pay the price when they find themselves unable to innovate whereas NVIDIA has already been innovating for the future for many years. This also applies to their CPUs, while AMD is miniaturizing their die size they're going to pay the price in the future when they find themselves unable to innovate their CPUs and further miniaturize them, Intel is focusing more on how to innovate past Moore's law through actual science instead of working around it for temporary gains. The point is that AMD is doing temporary things to boost their own stock shares in the present while their competitors are actually innovating for future technology, which will drastically hurt them later on. So yes, NVIDIA is definitely a safe bet for future proofing, and it is objectively high performance.
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