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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 5:32:36 GMT
Personally, I find it mildly concerning how some administrators in this community had very little problem in banning a longstanding ex-staff member, with 10k posts, that had been with TF since the beginning. Because in life, especially jobs, it doesn't matter how long you've been apart of something. People who have worked for companies for 30-40 years still get fired. The "I've been here longer than you" doesn't work in real life no matter how hard it is to grasp that it doesn't. Also post count is completely irrelevant for things like this. Seniority as an issue aside, the real issue is banning someone in a way that goes against all forms of conduct that this server has held up for many many years. Just completely throws it out the window. I don't know how or why you're expecting everyone to just sit back and not give a shit about this. You're living up to the Server Dictator title by now, Seth. Not to bring up old shit, but for real nothing like this would have ever, and I mean ever, happened under Mark... or even Windows. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 5:36:06 GMT
Personally, I find it mildly concerning how some administrators in this community had very little problem in banning a longstanding ex-staff member, with 10k posts, that had been with TF since the beginning. Because in life, especially jobs, it doesn't matter how long you've been apart of something. People who have worked for companies for 30-40 years still get fired. The "I've been here longer than you" doesn't work in real life no matter how hard it is to grasp that it doesn't. Also post count is completely irrelevant for things like this. 1) Have you ever heard of "tenure"? Tenure exists on the sole purpose of giving dedicated, senior professors an advantage. For you to say that the "I've been here longer than you" fiasco "doesn't work", is blatantly preposterous. 2) Post counts, as of now, are the only accurate statistic (in my eyes), in gauging continued staff dedication to the community. 10,000 posts is not, is never, something that should be taken lightly. He's surpassed the founder IMO I believe it is more than fair to say that a user with 10,000 posts, has dedicated an ample amount of time to this community. Furthermore, most of his posts were suggestions (some not worded in the most polite of manors), but most, if not all, were done with the sole purpose of benefitting TF. As much as I disliked Wilee (in the short time I knew him), I knew deep down, that all he wanted was TF to stay in the right direction. One doesn't exceed 9,000 posts, 95% of which are suggestions, if him/her doesn't want the best for this community. What's the need for a super admin like myself to follow a conduct policy, if all of my higher-up role models are seemingly banning individuals based on their disagreeances, and not based upon the very conduct policy that we're all said to be "subject to"? My point, in termino, was that I felt as if this punishment seemed to target Wilee as an individual, and not for any sort of conduct related issue... something that shouldn't be tolerated in an 8 year old community built upon rules, policy, and structure. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 6:13:24 GMT
Okay fine I don't care anymore. Zaid keeps unbanning him, fuck it fine. I'm going to go get fucking high and forgetting this ever happened.
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Post by Lemon on Aug 12, 2019 6:14:10 GMT
Because in life, especially jobs, it doesn't matter how long you've been apart of something. People who have worked for companies for 30-40 years still get fired. The "I've been here longer than you" doesn't work in real life no matter how hard it is to grasp that it doesn't. Also post count is completely irrelevant for things like this. It literally does though. Like, have you ever worked a job before? Seniority, probation periods, and the amount of time you've put into a work of place are some of the biggest factors that will effect how you're treated by an employer. People still do get fired, but people that have worked at a place for 30 years need to do a hell of a lot more to get fired that someone that got hired six months back. This is just such a fundamentally ridiculous thing that I can't find believe you just said it And you literally banned him for "being annoying", good luck getting fired from a job for that. I don't get how you're even attempting to compare this to real life and act like that at all helps your position lmfao Accurate representation of real life below:
30 year employee: I have all these suggestions that we could make that might help our company do better, I'd love to get some input from the other workers here to see what they think as well
CEO: FIRED
Actual real life situation: 30 year old employee makes suggestions every day despite not going to work for the past 6 years and disagreeing with literally everything that’s said because “it increases incentive to be an admin” CEO: fired 25 year old employees: despite never doing anything for the past 6 years, upon hearing from 30 year old employee comes and complains about him being fired |
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