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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 7:43:22 GMT
I really don't want to become dependent on donations, but with me moving in exactly 7 days I'm going to have to get a real job. Money is going to be tight, because I'm going to be even more broke than Robin.
Any money received from here will go strictly to any payments required to run the server and nothing else.
Donating will be done on paypal.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jul 20, 2019 7:57:12 GMT
I'm honestly not sure what to make of this or which way to go with the poll. I like the precedent that we've had over the past 9 years that we don't rely on donations whatsoever, and the one who's actually spending money to keep things going gets absolute power (sort of). The only problem I see is that if the people are the ones paying the bills, is there a reason to have an owner at all?
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Post by fionn on Jul 20, 2019 10:58:56 GMT
i think it's against tfm policy, and not just tf policy, so you'd probably have to have a chat with prozzs
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Post by mattlawn on Jul 20, 2019 13:14:44 GMT
I don't want to get to the point where we are pushing donations
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Post by LightUk on Jul 20, 2019 13:28:01 GMT
If you can't afford to pay for TF anymore, just shut it down, it's not worth it anymore anyway.
This place is dead and not worth the hassle, doubt anybody would donate anyways.
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Post by MrDicty/DrJenal on Jul 20, 2019 13:33:15 GMT
I think that TF should remain a donation-free server. When Mark created this server in 2010 he always wanted this server to never accept donations or payment. He believed that the best donations he could ask for are the people who donate their time to make this server a better place. These were admins, helpful ops, developers, forum admins, etc... without wanting payment and that he could not ask more than that. Mark thought that everyone was equal and that it was about ones personality and ability that got them favours and admin status and that money meant nothing as the server was always pay-free. Mark also stated that if he couldn't continue paying for the server he'd give it to someone else who could pay for it and keep TF as the server it had always been since 2010, if there was no one to do this then the server would not be able to operate. For more information see here |
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jul 20, 2019 15:23:56 GMT
As Mark said back in 2015, I think it would be more in line with the spirit of TotalFreedom to pass on the ownership than to take donations. I'm afraid it would become a slippery slope.
Sidenote: I would never become a staff member on a for-profit server unless I was also getting paid: my time is too valuable to have someone else pocket money because of what I do for free.
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Post by Xiger on Jul 20, 2019 15:39:15 GMT
I think its time to say goodbye to TF, if you financially cannot keep this running; there is no use in keeping it open. I don't want to see the day that TF is asking for money; with its current community base I doubt it'll get much donations anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 16:04:25 GMT
Some little donations may be fine but if Seth can't pay for the server, it should be let go of. It's almost like everyone here almost has nothing to lose with this :/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 16:59:45 GMT
This isn't a "is it worth keeping open" competition. Seth is clearly asking for help financially, and when he said "I'll be more broke then Robin", I don't believe he was talking just about the server. Honestly, from what I am seeing above, how did this go from a vouch-object poll to a "Seth can't pay should someone else take ownership" poll? This was not what this poll was about in the slightest.
The server payment is somewhat a little more expensive then an average OVH VPS, but can be made with a simple paycheck in my opinion.
If someone is not allowed to simply ask for help, then I don't know how we as human-beings function on this Earth.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 18:08:22 GMT
It was just a suggestion but fine no donations. i think it's against tfm policy, and not just tf policy, so you'd probably have to have a chat with prozzs It's not. |
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Post by ?Robin on Jul 20, 2019 18:59:46 GMT
If you can't afford to pay for TF anymore, just shut it down, it's not worth it anymore anyway. This place is dead and not worth the hassle, doubt anybody would donate anyways. im gonna bypass the lock so i can tell you to please shut the fuck up, thank you |
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Post by Zaid on Jul 20, 2019 19:46:05 GMT
If your only input lately has been “say goodbye to TotalFreedom” or “it’s dead”, then quit being a hypocrite and leave lmao. The fact that some people stick around for months just to make the same remarks prove that the servers still thriving.
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