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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 23:06:13 GMT
I know what you are trying to do, and I most most of the people who are involved with this, but because I'm not the nazi I was back in UMC's days, I'm not going to mass-suspend, mass-censor, or whatever. I've been told by someone that a group of people are trying to overthrow me by most likely using disposable accounts to "expose me" on shit I've done. I know who you are trying to get to replace me. I'm not going to sit here while we try to dig up the dumb shit I've done years ago, and I know currently I've made really corrupt and biased decisions, and I'm willing to admit to it. I'm not going to sit here and lie for the next decade, I'm not going to censor you, or suspend you, or do anything to you. You are allowed to criticize me, I don't delete "nasty drama" or shit like that because I hate censorship. See a reply I've made here addressing past corrupt decisions I made: totalfreedom.boards.net/post/728504/threadOverthrowing me is not the way to go, Windows was overthrew because he ran away and never came back and stopped paying for the server. I don't run away like a bitch, because I hate others who do that, |
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Post by tozzit on Mar 26, 2019 23:08:43 GMT
Overthrowing you? Clearly your little birdie has been telling porkie pies
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 23:15:40 GMT
Overthrowing you? Clearly your little birdie has been telling porkie pies Please. Based on the behavior of some of those I was told were involved, it's pretty evident... |
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Post by JagWire on Mar 26, 2019 23:16:30 GMT
I did not want you to leave, I did not even want myself to leave but there we are.
We wanted to resolve problems that were not being adressed, so i gathered some other admins who felt the same way so that a thread could be made. If you overthrow yet another, owner. We will end up in the exact state we were with Windows. Was it the best way forward? No? But it did get the message across, regardless of it being disagreed with other admins.
Look Seth, I may not have agreed with all of these new policies, but I went along with it. We felt as if a lot of admins weren't being dealt with in a way that they should have been.
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Post by tozzit on Mar 26, 2019 23:17:21 GMT
Overthrowing you? Clearly your little birdie has been telling porkie pies Please. Based on the behavior of some of those I was told were involved, it's pretty evident... Oh come on.... wheres your evidence? this is hearsay from hearsay. If nothing else i really hope this gets you off you ass and you do something. |
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Mar 26, 2019 23:28:08 GMT
Windows was overthrew because he ran away and never came back and stopped paying for the server On a completely unrelated note to the ongoing discussion, I don't like this way of describing what happened, which you've used before. You have no evidence to assume that he "ran away", nor was he overthrown because I don't think there was even a plan to get rid of him at the moment he disappeared. I'd compare it to saying you overthrew the king because you waited until he died of old age to assume the throne. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 23:32:01 GMT
Windows was overthrew because he ran away and never came back and stopped paying for the server On a completely unrelated note to the ongoing discussion, I don't like this way of describing what happened, which you've used before. You have no evidence to assume that he "ran away", nor was he overthrown because I don't think there was even a plan to get rid of him at the moment he disappeared. I'd compare it to saying you overthrew the king because you waited until he died of old age to assume the throne. And look now, he still isn't here. He either ran away, died, got so busy he couldn't even state why he was leaving, to me it looks like he clearly ran away, died, put in a coma, etc. I, myself, did not completely have 100% power over overthrowing him because we held an election for it. |
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Mar 26, 2019 23:37:01 GMT
On a completely unrelated note to the ongoing discussion, I don't like this way of describing what happened, which you've used before. You have no evidence to assume that he "ran away", nor was he overthrown because I don't think there was even a plan to get rid of him at the moment he disappeared. I'd compare it to saying you overthrew the king because you waited until he died of old age to assume the throne. And look now, he still isn't here. He either ran away, died, got so busy he couldn't even state why he was leaving, to me it looks like he clearly ran away, died, put in a coma, etc. I, myself, did not completely have 100% power over overthrowing him because we held an election for it. Of course it's not related to you, my point is that we didn't overthrow him because there was already no one in the position when you were elected; he was removed by our forum inactivity policy, if nothing else. |
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Post by Fluffasaurus_Rex on Mar 26, 2019 23:37:56 GMT
This is most definitely not the best way to have gone about making a public statement about this. If you give me time I can PM you a better way to have addressed this issue if you'd like. This is going to end up stoking the fire even more than the other post.
The fact of the matter is that when it comes down to it, at the end of the day, Seth owns and pays for the server. He can do literally whatever he wants to no matter how anyone feels. You can hold votes all you want, even if they pass 100 admins to 0, he can overrule it.
I'm going to be playing the role of Switzerland here now and I'm refusing to pick a side. I'm only here to watch the fireworks and try to keep some peace.
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Post by tozzit on Mar 26, 2019 23:52:03 GMT
This is most definitely not the best way to have gone about making a public statement about this. If you give me time I can PM you a better way to have addressed this issue if you'd like. This is going to end up stoking the fire even more than the other post. The fact of the matter is that when it comes down to it, at the end of the day, Seth owns and pays for the server. He can do literally whatever he wants to no matter how anyone feels. You can hold votes all you want, even if they pass 100 admins to 0, he can overrule it. I'm going to be playing the role of Switzerland here now and I'm refusing to pick a side. I'm only here to watch the fireworks and try to keep some peace. yay i love dictatorships they always work out |
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Post by super on Mar 26, 2019 23:55:49 GMT
ok what im annoyed at is when an intense epic gamer argument starts in a thread about puppies
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Post by Fleek on Mar 27, 2019 9:14:25 GMT
To be honest, it does look like you're biased according to the discord server. Now don't get me wrong when I say that, I'm not accusing nor am I saying you're biased but people can be mistaken with you being biased.
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Post by Panther on Mar 27, 2019 16:02:34 GMT
As of now, what's realistically happening is more and more people are agreeing that TotalFreedom is a lost cause. When you give root access to people like Robin just because they're your buddy, when you give people custom titles for pretty much no reason, and when you failed to really own up to it when people actually saw it happening (like my thread about it I made before,) it causes people to just give up. Why would they waste their time on a server that's controlled by someone who just gives power to their friends? You never really answered that question, so people left.
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Post by Zaid on Mar 27, 2019 16:48:47 GMT
As of now, what's realistically happening is more and more people are agreeing that TotalFreedom is a lost cause. Again, this has happened in almost every TF time period. Ironically, I was one of those who mass resigned over one of Mark's decisions. Nevertheless, I came back. So, no, I don't think that a few admins say "TF is dead" is going to do anything nor is it anything new. When you give root access to people like Robin just because they're your buddy asked and answered yeah because I setup the server several times and I ALSO fix issues occurring in the server... when you give people custom titles for pretty much no reason Who has gotten a custom rank except for Seth himself and Videp (for something he actually accomplished) like my thread about it I made before Your thread was an unneeded drama thread that was basically whining about "why did seth call himself dictator!!11!!!" someone who just gives power to their friends while not fully accurate, it's nothing new. Mark did the same thing with Galahad and Darklynx and when I brought up it was immediately censored as "nasty drama" and I was almost suspended for it. At least we're able to talk about such things now. |
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Post by fionn on Mar 27, 2019 16:57:54 GMT
when you give people custom titles for pretty much no reason Who has gotten a custom rank except for Seth himself and Videp (for something he actually accomplished) in all fairness smg has the title big fish |
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