XenVoltz
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Post by XenVoltz on Nov 26, 2018 5:36:20 GMT
this is referring to how uyscutix would write anything to get people to object Well it seems you are trying to make it seem like their objections are irrational. The screenshot is one of the reasons why he decided to object, I am not understanding why their is an argument going on here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 5:40:53 GMT
Well it seems you are trying to make it seem like their objections are irrational. The screenshot is one of the reasons why he decided to object, I am not understanding why their is an argument going on here. i'm not trying to make it seem like the objections are invalid, i'm saying that it seems like lemon is trying to make other people object based on emotional preference rather than skill or effectiveness in an environment with the other devs.
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Post by XenVoltz on Nov 26, 2018 5:44:19 GMT
Well it seems you are trying to make it seem like their objections are irrational. The screenshot is one of the reasons why he decided to object, I am not understanding why their is an argument going on here. i'm not trying to make it seem like the objections are invalid, i'm saying that it seems like lemon is trying to make other people object based on emotional preference rather than skill or effectiveness in an environment with the other devs. Evaluating someone to do something based solely on skill is a mistake. Like I said, the chemistry between each of the developers is vital. They need to be able to communicate with each other to get the job done efficiently.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 5:45:50 GMT
i'm not trying to make it seem like the objections are invalid, i'm saying that it seems like lemon is trying to make other people object based on emotional preference rather than skill or effectiveness in an environment with the other devs. Evaluating someone to do something based solely on skill is a mistake. Like I said, the chemistry between each of the developers is vital. They need to be able to communicate with each other to get the job done efficiently. and i'm not saying the chemistry isn't vital - i'm saying that lemon's intent seemed more to make people dislike him as a person for objects than actively provide useful information
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 5:52:57 GMT
He has been contributing with a lot of changes in TFM and also been working on 1.13.2 on his own GitHub page Let me sum this up real quick: The reason why I'm not updating the server to 1.13 is because spigot is because it literally says right up on the top to not use spigot 1.13 in production. Now, you believe packs should be entitled to become a developer because he's contributing to the development of TFM 1.13.2 on his repositories on github. I don't give the tiniest fuck about other people doing what I've been tasked to do. That's great, you want to do it too, you're welcome to do that. You chose to do something someone else is explicitly tasked to do, now you want to be awarded because you called firsts on doing it? Excuse me? Is this a competition? I've said numerous times I would have 1.13 on the server once the spigot developers declare spigot 1.13 safe to use on the server. Edit: as of now, spigot is now stable on 1.13.2. So it seems I'll be getting to work on updating TF-modified plugins and deploying everything to the server tomorrow.
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Post by Jayscoob on Nov 26, 2018 5:53:08 GMT
If there’s going to be this much controversy about him being developer, then maybe it’s best to just keep it how it is.
and Seth makes a good point in the post above. Better to wait it out and not speed through trying to make yourself look like your putting so much effort and he’s not when Spigot hasn’t announced it to be safe.
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XenVoltz
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Post by XenVoltz on Nov 26, 2018 5:53:11 GMT
Evaluating someone to do something based solely on skill is a mistake. Like I said, the chemistry between each of the developers is vital. They need to be able to communicate with each other to get the job done efficiently. and i'm not saying the chemistry isn't vital - i'm saying that lemon's intent seemed more to make people dislike him as a person for objects than actively provide useful information also i don't think people who talk shit behind peoples back deserve developer either It doesn't seem like that at all. It seems like he trying to make a valid point. "People who talk shit behind peoples backs [don't] deserve developer." Again, one of many reasons why he objected. This argument is going nowhere.
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Lucas
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Post by Lucas on Nov 26, 2018 6:17:36 GMT
...umm so i don't give a fuck about any of the argument that happened and i cba to read it so ill vouch because i think packs has potential as a dev
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Post by Fleek on Nov 26, 2018 7:00:48 GMT
He has been contributing with a lot of changes in TFM and also been working on 1.13.2 on his own GitHub page Let me sum this up real quick: The reason why I'm not updating the server to 1.13 is because spigot is because it literally says right up on the top to not use spigot 1.13 in production. Now, you believe packs should be entitled to become a developer because he's contributing to the development of TFM 1.13.2 on his repositories on github. I don't give the tiniest fuck about other people doing what I've been tasked to do. That's great, you want to do it too, you're welcome to do that. You chose to do something someone else is explicitly tasked to do, now you want to be awarded because you called firsts on doing it? Excuse me? Is this a competition? I've said numerous times I would have 1.13 on the server once the spigot developers declare spigot 1.13 safe to use on the server. Edit: as of now, spigot is now stable on 1.13.2. So it seems I'll be getting to work on updating TF-modified plugins and deploying everything to the server tomorrow. I'm not saying he should get developer because he has been working on TFM for 1.13.2. I'm just saying that it would be beneficial to have an extra set of hands to help with TF transition to 1.13. If what Lemon said about talking behind people's back is true, then I didn't know about that. All packs told me is that you and Lemon would object on this because he has been pushing you guys to update stuff. EDIT: I just read Lemon's post and it's interesting to see that he could disrespect you.
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Post by smg515 on Nov 26, 2018 8:23:26 GMT
Object.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 13:12:37 GMT
I object
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Post by serrif on Nov 26, 2018 18:04:32 GMT
Regardless- 2/4 of our current Developers have objected, and the policy requires a confirmation of activity and usefulness from one of the four. Unless aggelosQQ or Madgeek can confirm; @packsgaminghd cannot become a Developer.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Nov 26, 2018 19:35:07 GMT
He has been contributing with a lot of changes in TFM and also been working on 1.13.2 on his own GitHub page Let me sum this up real quick: The reason why I'm not updating the server to 1.13 is because spigot is because it literally says right up on the top to not use spigot 1.13 in production. Now, you believe packs should be entitled to become a developer because he's contributing to the development of TFM 1.13.2 on his repositories on github. I don't give the tiniest fuck about other people doing what I've been tasked to do. That's great, you want to do it too, you're welcome to do that. You chose to do something someone else is explicitly tasked to do, now you want to be awarded because you called firsts on doing it? Excuse me? Is this a competition? I've said numerous times I would have 1.13 on the server once the spigot developers declare spigot 1.13 safe to use on the server. Edit: as of now, spigot is now stable on 1.13.2. So it seems I'll be getting to work on updating TF-modified plugins and deploying everything to the server tomorrow. Just use the word encroachment.
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Post by Mnpn on Nov 26, 2018 20:52:01 GMT
Commit amount != A better contributor or a better developer. I'm not saying you're a bad developer, I just do not think you can compare commit amount to being a good one. That's up to the current developers.
I'm going to object, though.
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Post by ?Robin on Nov 26, 2018 20:53:28 GMT
Commit amount != A better contributor or a better developer. I'm not saying you're a bad developer, I just do not think you can compare commit amount to being a good one. That's up to the current developers. I'm going to object, though. THANK YOU. that first sentence... it's literally all we needed. bless.
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