xfilez
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Post by xfilez on Apr 13, 2018 10:47:31 GMT
Please read before voting
The situation regarding UYScutix is a complex one, so it needs to be asked whether or not UY should retain his MB Status.
UY earned his place as a Masterbuilder with his building skills, so it's important that the other MB's have a say in his future.
Note: This poll is to decide if UY should be a Masterbuilder by name alone. He will still be restricted on the forums and server.
If you have any feedback feel free to comment, however, please don't cause any drama.
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xfilez
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Post by xfilez on Apr 13, 2018 11:14:23 GMT
I've moved this to the Server Builds and Maps lounge so we get more votes from the public in this poll
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kunochan
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Post by kunochan on Apr 13, 2018 11:24:15 GMT
Quick question before I vote - What exactly did UY do to be restricted?
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Post by Darth on Apr 13, 2018 11:49:17 GMT
Quick question before I vote - What exactly did UY do to be restricted? Well in summary, he made really long posts on applications that made other admins change their votes. markbyron told him he could no longer post votes, and then he went rogue. He got a large number of admins to give him inside information and SPaS his alts (with the theme of stopping censorship on TF), leading to mass suspensions, and then he apologized and hasn't been a problem for months. |
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Post by kunochan on Apr 13, 2018 11:58:22 GMT
Quick question before I vote - What exactly did UY do to be restricted? Well in summary, he made really long posts on applications that made other admins change their votes. markbyron told him he could no longer post votes, and then he went rogue. He got a large number of admins to give him inside information and SPaS his alts (with the theme of stopping censorship on TF), leading to mass suspensions, and then he apologized and hasn't been a problem for months. Okay, I think I have my vote now. Thank you for the information. |
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Apr 13, 2018 13:06:59 GMT
I think you're asking the wrong question: does the master builder rank certify that someone is a good builder, or does it indicate that they are part of this server's build team? His building skills and his previous builds didn't disappear just because he went rogue.
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Post by Drunkle Qrow (BuscusFan) on Apr 13, 2018 13:39:20 GMT
I think you're asking the wrong question: does the master builder rank certify that someone is a good builder, or does it indicate that they are part of this server's build team? His building skills and his previous builds didn't disappear just because he went rogue. I don't know if we really want known rogues being listed as master builders of the server. Just doesn't seem like a good message to be putting out |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 14:20:20 GMT
Steven made a really good point there. If the MB Title indicates their building skill, then I think Scutix should be kept.
If it indicates that a player is part of the Server's Build Team, I think he should be removed from the status. He hasn't been on every platform we use.
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Mafrans
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Post by Mafrans on Apr 13, 2018 16:47:05 GMT
I don't see a point in removing him, he's still a good builder.
The Master Builders rarely ever build anything for the server (outside of occasional events) anyway.
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mibbzz
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Post by mibbzz on Apr 13, 2018 17:17:01 GMT
He's banned from the server, why should he hold any status here still?
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Post by MrDicty/DrJenal on Apr 13, 2018 17:19:41 GMT
He shouldn't still have it. If he can't access the server, I don't know how he can do all the things Master Builders do.
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Apr 13, 2018 17:54:42 GMT
I think you're asking the wrong question: does the master builder rank certify that someone is a good builder, or does it indicate that they are part of this server's build team? His building skills and his previous builds didn't disappear just because he went rogue. I don't know if we really want known rogues being listed as master builders of the server. Just doesn't seem like a good message to be putting out That is my point. If his master builder status only indicates that he is a good builder and not that he is part of any official team, we have no reason to remove him. |
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Dusty01
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Post by Dusty01 on Apr 13, 2018 18:06:51 GMT
I think you're asking the wrong question: does the master builder rank certify that someone is a good builder, or does it indicate that they are part of this server's build team? His building skills and his previous builds didn't disappear just because he went rogue. I don't see a point in removing him, he's still a good builder. I'd like to clarify that the title 'Master Builder'does not simply signify that they're a good builder. 'Master Builders' has been a collective term for the team of builders who will be called upon when required to make a map or new spawns.
I don't see a point in just recognizing them as a good builder. It's a position they voluntarily signed up for so they must expect responsibilities. He's banned from the server, why should he hold any status here still? The opposition's argument is that he has contributed builds at some time in the past and must be credited for it. If he can't access the server, I don't know how he can do all the things Master Builders do. Filez is only talking about the status, which includes pictures of his builds on the official website. |
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Post by Drunkle Qrow (BuscusFan) on Apr 13, 2018 18:07:06 GMT
I don't know if we really want known rogues being listed as master builders of the server. Just doesn't seem like a good message to be putting out That is my point. If his master builder status only indicates that he is a good builder and not that he is part of any official team, we have no reason to remove him. All master builders are listed on the TF website totalfreedom.me/masterbuilders/ so I'd say that gives us reason to remove him |
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Apr 13, 2018 18:13:37 GMT
I think you're asking the wrong question: does the master builder rank certify that someone is a good builder, or does it indicate that they are part of this server's build team? His building skills and his previous builds didn't disappear just because he went rogue. I'd like to clarify that the title 'Master Builder'does not simply signify that they're a good builder. 'Master Builders' has been a collective term for the team of builders who will be called upon when required to make a map or new spawns.
I don't see a point in just recognizing them as a good builder. It's a position they voluntarily signed up for so they must expect responsibilities. He's banned from the server, why should he hold any status here still? The opposition's argument is that he has contributed builds at some time in the past and must be credited for it. Then let me rephrase the question: does the master builder status indicate that they have contributed builds at some point in time, or does it indicate that they are currently contributing builds? |
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