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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 2:32:08 GMT
Thought to might as well tell you guys this. Sent a kind've passive aggression (throw in a bit of ass-kissing) PM to me trying to argue me out of my choice. What happend to "I don't like asking for recommendations. It sounds greedy and impatient." ou argueing every single objection you're getting seems greedy and impatient. Also this is applied to all apps "for answering a direct question that is asked by the owner or admins, DO NOT post any comment messages to your application until after the application is approved or disapproved". Oh and please don't respond to this as this isn't a direction question
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 3:03:20 GMT
Ethan, I'm not taking sides here but he could give less of a shit about your objection or vouch. He doesn't need your help in getting what he wants, he just felt like he needed to explain to you that his successfully running server won't be in the way of him performing as a senior admin. You're just finding every little detail about him for people to sway their minds about this, if you disagree to that statement then you are clearly a bullshitting low life because otherwise you wouldn't have posted that comment and try to "expose" him when he's just an applicant trying to clear his name up and other misunderstandings. Also, you clearly don't know your vocabulary, you really need to stop mixing in words you don't know the meaning of. hos·tile ?hästl,?hä?st?l adjective unfriendly; antagonistic. "a hostile audience" synonyms: unfriendly, unkind, bitter, unsympathetic, malicious, vicious, rancorous, venomous, poisonous, virulent; More I don't see anyone in the right mind who can send a letter that is both unfriendly and "ass-kissing" under these circumstances. You chose to partly share his private personal message to the world just to bring him down and to stop people from getting what they want which I find pathetic as the senior admin you are. Please per his activity, I suggest you do not judge it because /seen does not even know who the fuck you are anymore. Nor have I ever seen you on the server with my daily activity or have heard reports of you on the server. Many senior admins have lots of reasonable excuses to not be active on the server which is perfectly fine, people can choose how they spend their time and the things they do to please themselves, one may be a senior here but can be busy with extra-curricular activities, coding, school, sports, and such. It just happens to be that Crafter can be sometimes occupied by his server, which is in no means more time consuming than any of the activities or hobbies that many of you do. That's why I defend his case on him owning a server being a liability to his application, it really should be an asset.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 3:14:38 GMT
In fact, this is a direct question to you crafter, will you mind showing us the PM you sent him?
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Post by _flippy on Aug 15, 2014 7:31:24 GMT
Vouch!
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Post by Wild1145 on Aug 15, 2014 9:28:33 GMT
Just as a general note, with Wilee and Ethans discussion here, the one thing I feel must be pointed out, that as a server owner of a TotalFreedomMod server, you do know about all the commands, probably all the policies (Because at the end of the day most servers use very similar rules to TF) and you have an appreciation as to how hard it is to run the server. Im not saying that Crafter will be the perfect senior, however I do agree with him questioning people that object, and trying to defend himself. I think that shows a drive and motivation to become better than he already is, and thats the sort of thing a senior should be doing.
If people cant see that running a server does give you the upper hand, yes it will take more time from you and yes it can drain you, but it does give you that know how on how it works, what you do, and its overall as long as it doesn't take too much time from administrating here, it is much more of an advantage to have EXPERIENCED server owners of TFM servers as high ranks here, as they are likely to have suggestions or improvements that they have trialed on their own servers that will improve here.
I do get 100% where Ethan is coming from, however I think the entire thing of just trying to poke holes, is a bit low, and at the end of the day, I dont believe he has actually broken any of the application rules by PM'ing you, in fact he followed it by not responding unless it was a direct question.
As for the PM, I also would like to see it, so Crafter if you can share it with us so we can see it, I would also appreciate it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 13:07:50 GMT
No need I got it. Changed it from hostIle (I mean spelling means the world on the internet right?) "I somewhat agree with what you said (Ass kiss here); however, my server is none of your concern (Throw in some passive aggressiveness). I know when my server needs help and what it needs.(Sprinkle some here) So me owning a server should have no impact on my applications." If this was any other PM I would've been fine but you guys aren't getting the point. He clearly didn't even study into senior apps that well, hence breaking commenting rule and the most annoying part is trying to argue his point of view on every objection he has on his app in PM or on his own app coming from the guy who didn't want to ask for vouches. Also I'm not trying to do anything to your opinions, I'm just telling you what he just did to me and how it annoyed me. It could negatively influence people's opinions but it's your choice to let that happen, not mine. On that note I'm sticking on my word that why get an semi-active senior admin when we can get a fully-active senior admin.
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Post by RyuXD on Aug 15, 2014 13:18:39 GMT
I tend to agree with both sides on this application. I think Wild said it best when he explained the pros and cons of owning a server. However, as a former admin on FOP, I know that the protocols are somewhat different and therefore aren't all relevant to those of TotalFreedom. Crafter has always been a mature and responsible admin, when he's on, that is. When you own a server, it IS really hard to manage your time. Heck, you don't even have to own the server. Just being a super on one server and a senior on another was so difficult I ended up resigning from here. But getting to the point, I agree with Ethan, why get a semi-active senior when we have other candidates who can and will be fully-active? Also, I might've been neutral had he not sent that PM to Ethan.]
All things considered, I object.
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Post by minimitch on Aug 15, 2014 13:37:13 GMT
No need I got it. Changed it from hostIle (I mean spelling means the world on the internet right?) "I somewhat agree with what you said (Ass kiss here); however, my server is none of your concern (Throw in some passive aggressiveness). I know when my server needs help and what it needs.(Sprinkle some here) So me owning a server should have no impact on my applications." If this was any other PM I would've been fine but you guys aren't getting the point. He clearly didn't even study into senior apps that well, hence breaking commenting rule and the most annoying part is trying to argue his point of view on every objection he has on his app in PM or on his own app coming from the guy who didn't want to ask for vouches. Also I'm not trying to do anything to your opinions, I'm just telling you what he just did to me and how it annoyed me. It could negatively influence people's opinions but it's your choice to let that happen, not mine. On that note I'm sticking on my word that why get an semi-active senior admin when we can get a fully-active senior admin. Ethan I'm not against you but I agree with wilee. Also, I think we wanted to see what you meant by ass kissing and passive aggressiveness as some people tend to exaggerate that sort of stuff.
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Post by Prozza on Aug 15, 2014 14:35:14 GMT
I'm just going to vouch here and leave. c: <3
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Post by Wade on Aug 15, 2014 14:40:14 GMT
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Post by aggelosQQ on Aug 16, 2014 22:51:17 GMT
I vouch. I'm pretty sure you could make great senior, you are very experienced, very familiar with the rules, the protocols and the commands. I don't see a reason of not being one Just fix your activity a bit
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 19:26:59 GMT
bump
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 17:39:54 GMT
Vouch. You're mature, fairly active, and you meet all of the requirements to apply. You'll make a great senior as long as you manage your time wisely.
For people who plan to apply in the future, an awesome thing about his application is that in the "accomplishments" section, his paragraph goes far beyond the regular "I ban griefers". Everybody knows you ban griefers. It's an expectation, not an accomplishment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 19:31:23 GMT
Neutral leaning towards vouch. BE MORE ACTIVE! <3 Other than that you are awesome sauce as a Telnet. GL!
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