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Post by shrules on Sept 17, 2017 12:44:37 GMT
If i press on Announcer, it turns on, so it's technically the same as that other bot, as something must happen before it enables. According to section 4i: activation upon keybinds are allowed, anything else isn't allowed. Same goes for this bot then - It's not a keybind that enables it. |
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Post by shrules on Sept 17, 2017 12:45:11 GMT
I don't see it as much, as long as it's not too spammy, I think it would be allowed He's taking over chat How's that spamming? It's literally just 2 messages... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 12:50:59 GMT
I think they're fine and admins should treat them like any regular player. If the bot is causing spam, you can go ahead and mute them. You contradicted yourself in your own thread: Macros that are triggered by chat actions (e.g. someone gets flagged as an imposter automatically makes your client do /say Verify)Essentially, anything that you did not press yourself but rather is based on the actions of other players or what is being said in chat. |
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Post by Mike on Sept 17, 2017 12:52:13 GMT
I think they're fine and admins should treat them like any regular player. If the bot is causing spam, you can go ahead and mute them. You contradicted yourself in your own thread: Essentially, anything that you did not press yourself but rather is based on the actions of other players or what is being said in chat. Macros that are triggered by chat actions (e.g. someone gets flagged as an imposter automatically makes your client do /say Verify)Essentially, anything that you did not press yourself but rather is based on the actions of other players or what is being said in chat. That thread is for admins since I can't come to an agreement on whether this ChatGames bot should be allowed. I'll discuss it with Steven and see what we can agree on. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 12:52:58 GMT
How's that spamming? It's literally just 2 messages... In shrules case, he isn't spamming chat, however the macro isn't allowed, this bot is also not allowed, and this bot does take up chat and spam it. I'd prefer a reaction plugin to be added |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 12:54:45 GMT
You contradicted yourself in your own thread: That thread is for admins since I can't come to an agreement on whether this ChatGames bot should be allowed. I'll discuss it with Steven and see what we can agree on. No, you still contradicted yourself, so what your saying there is giving OPs special treatment: Bot's that are activated by chat by admins = not allowed Bot's activated by chat made by OPs = allowed |
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Post by BabySharkDoo on Sept 17, 2017 12:58:13 GMT
That thread is for admins since I can't come to an agreement on whether this ChatGames bot should be allowed. I'll discuss it with Steven and see what we can agree on. No, you still contradicted yourself, so what your saying there is giving OPs special treatment: Bot's that are activated by chat by admins = not allowed Bot's activated by chat made by OPs = allowed In the OP's case it's activated upon chat command (chatbot.start or something idk) In ShRule's case it's activated upon player joining and or leaving and sends a message. Does that make a difference? Which one could be potentially be spammy? If a spambot joins ShRule's bot would spam however even though both is flooding chat, ShRule's bot is more consistent due to players keep joining and leaving |
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Post by shrules on Sept 17, 2017 12:59:25 GMT
No, you still contradicted yourself, so what your saying there is giving OPs special treatment: Bot's that are activated by chat by admins = not allowed Bot's activated by chat made by OPs = allowed In the OP's case it's activated upon chat command (chatbot.start or something idk) In ShRule's case it's activated upon player joining and or leaving and sends a message. Does that make a difference? Which one could be potentially be spammy? False, it's activated by pressing a button. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 13:03:53 GMT
No, you still contradicted yourself, so what your saying there is giving OPs special treatment: Bot's that are activated by chat by admins = not allowed Bot's activated by chat made by OPs = allowed In the OP's case it's activated upon chat command (chatbot.start or something idk) In ShRule's case it's activated upon player joining and or leaving and sends a message. Does that make a difference? Which one could be potentially be spammy? Which one could be more spammy? Here, I'll give you an example: These examples are taken from what I've literally seen on the server. <a>: Lovely weather we're having <b>: It is <c>: How are you guys doing? Welcome d to Total Freedom! <shrules>: Welcome d <a>: So anyways what are you up too <b>: Nothing much <d>: Yeah, just making pasta VS [ChatGames]<a>: chatgames.start [ChatGames}<b>: chatgames.start [ChatGames]<AtomikChatGames>: First person to say >> fghlkgf << wins 10 XP! [ChatGames]<a>: fghlkgf [ChatGames<b>: fghlkgf [ChatGames<d>: fghlkgf [ChatGames]<AtomikChatGames>: Congratulations, >> a << is the winner! You won 10 XP! [ChatGames]<d>: chatgames.start {ChatGames]<b<: chatgames.start |
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Post by BabySharkDoo on Sept 17, 2017 13:06:01 GMT
In the OP's case it's activated upon chat command (chatbot.start or something idk) In ShRule's case it's activated upon player joining and or leaving and sends a message. Does that make a difference? Which one could be potentially be spammy? Which one could be more spammy? Here, I'll give you an example: These examples are taken from what I've literally seen on the server. <a>: Lovely weather we're having <b>: It is <c>: How are you guys doing? Welcome d to Total Freedom! <shrules>: Welcome d <a>: So anyways what are you up too <b>: Nothing much <d>: Yeah, just making pasta VS [ChatGames]<a>: chatgames.start [ChatGames}<b>: chatgames.start [ChatGames]<AtomikChatGames>: First person to say >> fghlkgf << wins 10 XP! [ChatGames]<a>: fghlkgf [ChatGames<b>: fghlkgf [ChatGames<d>: fghlkgf [ChatGames]<AtomikChatGames>: Congratulations, >> a << is the winner! You won 10 XP! [ChatGames]<d>: chatgames.start {ChatGames]<b<: chatgames.start The chat bot has a much longer cooldown and delay than ShRules' bot (he claimed to having a delay). Spambot nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 13:09:34 GMT
Which one could be more spammy? Here, I'll give you an example: These examples are taken from what I've literally seen on the server. <a>: Lovely weather we're having <b>: It is <c>: How are you guys doing? Welcome d to Total Freedom! <shrules>: Welcome d <a>: So anyways what are you up too <b>: Nothing much <d>: Yeah, just making pasta VS [ChatGames]<a>: chatgames.start [ChatGames}<b>: chatgames.start [ChatGames]<AtomikChatGames>: First person to say >> fghlkgf << wins 10 XP! [ChatGames]<a>: fghlkgf [ChatGames<b>: fghlkgf [ChatGames<d>: fghlkgf [ChatGames]<AtomikChatGames>: Congratulations, >> a << is the winner! You won 10 XP! [ChatGames]<d>: chatgames.start {ChatGames]<b<: chatgames.start The chat bot has a much longer cooldown and delay than ShRules' bot (he claimed to having a delay). Spambot nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon I believe it's 'joined' by the way. Also, no, if someone spammed leaving and joining it's not necessarily shrules fault, in any case he could disable it in the event of a crash chest, before turning it back on again, plus the chatgames is being spamming in different ways, the bot itself, the commands and the answers. |
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Post by Mike on Sept 17, 2017 13:11:11 GMT
A new policy will be made sometime soon.  For now, just let the most senior online staff make the decision. |
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Post by BabySharkDoo on Sept 17, 2017 13:12:21 GMT
The chat bot has a much longer cooldown and delay than ShRules' bot (he claimed to having a delay). Spambot nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon I believe it's 'joined' by the way. Also, no, if someone spammed leaving and joining it's not necessarily shrules fault, in any case he could disable it in the event of a crash chest, before turning it back on again, plus the chatgames is being spamming in different ways, the bot itself, the commands and the answers. Thought the owner of the bot holds ALL responsibilities of the bot's usage and action. As mentioned chat games can be spammy but not consistently like ShRules'. It's more of an event and a particular time not like ShRule's which just goes whenever a player comes in or offline |
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Post by Lemon on Sept 17, 2017 13:13:12 GMT
The chat bot has a much longer cooldown and delay than ShRules' bot (he claimed to having a delay). Spambot nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon nnononon joiend the game <ShRules> Greetings nononon I believe it's 'joined' by the way. Also, no, if someone spammed leaving and joining it's not necessarily shrules fault, in any case he could disable it in the event of a crash chest, before turning it back on again, plus the chatgames is being spamming in different ways, the bot itself, the commands and the answers. I believe macro's are allowed if they do not do any administrative actions. If not that's how they should work. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 13:14:53 GMT
I believe it's 'joined' by the way. Also, no, if someone spammed leaving and joining it's not necessarily shrules fault, in any case he could disable it in the event of a crash chest, before turning it back on again, plus the chatgames is being spamming in different ways, the bot itself, the commands and the answers. I believe macro's are allowed if they do not do any administrative actions. If not that's how they should work. No, all chat based macros seem to be dis-allowed following current policy. |
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