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Post by jwmphall on Nov 21, 2016 23:43:37 GMT
Right, so I was told to move a prior conversation to a separate post, and so here it is. Feel free to move it to a different group if you care to.
On the topic of OP master builders (edit:) and why they cannot become them -the world is wiped too often and after every crash -schems work, however pasting a structure under 2500 blocks is impossible because it will say it is over the limit because it is bugged -admins will not paste your schem because they don't honestly care about ops (but that's another topic) -you will be griefed -your build will be rolled back if you are banned incorrectly -admins will not restore your build -as mentioned previously, w.e. is capped at 2500, but it is false and bugged, so good luck trying to get over like ~500
Before 800 people comment on how you can use builds from another server to apply there are these: -what will you do with your master builder rank? (see reasons above) -what is the point of a rank that gives ops nothing
Solution -give us a builder world -wiped every 1-2 weeks with plenty of notice -if possible, rework the w.e. limit to be accurate, if not, then at least tell admins that if you are an aspiring master builder they can paste your schem -harsher grief consequences such as longer ban times if you grief in the builder world -unless urgent, wait more than three seconds to roll an aspiring builder back in case of false bans
I am sure that i will get raosted instantly due to this thread, but at least see it from an ops eyes. right now, only admins are master builders (clarification needed because i didn't bother checking) solely because they have their own world.
thanks for reading and please agree/disagree or bump because this should be adressed
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Post by nick on Nov 22, 2016 4:29:27 GMT
-admins will not paste your schem because they don't honestly care about ops (but that's another ) Well, same buildings are really big that if we do //paste it may crash the server. So that is why sometimes admins don't want to use a random schem that can crash the server.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 5:58:37 GMT
Sadly the server cannot handle having an extra world. If this was to be implemented however, the adminworld should be scrapped and allow 'builders' to attend it. Which I honestly doubt will happen.
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Post by mibbzz on Nov 22, 2016 9:02:29 GMT
Let's all be honest for a second, master builder hasn't meant anything for a couple of years. I'm pretty sure there was something a little bit ago about changes to make it relevant again and good on that it I'm thinking correctly, but the entry for it doesnt even require you to ever play on tf. The system is inherently bias towards admins, because most ops won't be worrying about a title that means nothing and instead focusing on trying to achieve admin (although I guess stating you're a MB might help on an application?)
To get back to my point though, you're not really missing much and I don't see the core dynamics of the server changing for a title, nor do I see resources being diverted for it.
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Post by xfilez on Nov 22, 2016 10:20:43 GMT
I agree that something on a few things: - OP's should have some sort of privilege as master builders. <Maybe even access to Adminworld without permission to add guests?> - The system should be changed somehow to remove the bias
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 13:43:10 GMT
I agree that something on a few things: - OP's should have some sort of privilege as master builders. <Maybe even access to Adminworld without permission to add guests?> - The system should be changed somehow to remove the bias I don't like the idea of operators entering the adminworld. In our right minds we shouldn't be using ClanForge and we should switch to another host with better pricing for more space.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 14:26:06 GMT
I agree that something on a few things: - OP's should have some sort of privilege as master builders. <Maybe even access to Adminworld without permission to add guests?> - The system should be changed somehow to remove the bias I don't like the idea of operators entering the adminworld. In our right minds we shouldn't be using ClanForge and we should switch to another host with better pricing for more space. Then you could ask the question if there even should be an admin world? There is no point in it when it comes to it really... Admins adminstrate, not build.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 14:29:20 GMT
Let's all be honest for a second, master builder hasn't meant anything for a couple of years. I'm pretty sure there was something a little bit ago about changes to make it relevant again and good on that it I'm thinking correctly, but the entry for it doesnt even require you to ever play on tf. The system is inherently bias towards admins, because most ops won't be worrying about a title that means nothing and instead focusing on trying to achieve admin (although I guess stating you're a MB might help on an application?) To get back to my point though, you're not really missing much and I don't see the core dynamics of the server changing for a title, nor do I see resources being diverted for it. It never meant anything which is basically why I have given up on the rank. I occasionally comment on applications or submitted builds, but that's about it. Every-single-time a suggestion is made, it either gets shot down with "It's not a priority", "We don't have enough ram" or some other shit. If it was up to me personally, I would remove the rank altogether as it does not have any purpose nor will it ever get it in my eyes. It's a shame, but it's the truth. The fact that the server's adminstration values their own fun over the players of the entire server is what exactly makes the extra world impossible to get. There is no point, in my opinion, in having an admin world over a builder or masterbuilder world. As you mentioned and the OP did, it doesn't require you to even play on TF, which is ridiculous when the rank was supposed to make players build so that the players of the server could watch in awe.
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Post by jwmphall on Nov 23, 2016 2:33:28 GMT
-admins will not paste your schem because they don't honestly care about ops (but that's another ) Well, same buildings are really big that if we do //paste it may crash the server. So that is why sometimes admins don't want to use a random schem that can crash the server. and that is exactly what i am saying, hence the post, what are the point of schems if they are bugged and admins wont paste it? and if you were to see the rest of the post, it states that not only would this be a seperate world, but would also said builders would have extra repercussions to not following rules
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Post by nick on Nov 23, 2016 14:02:48 GMT
Well, same buildings are really big that if we do //paste it may crash the server. So that is why sometimes admins don't want to use a random schem that can crash the server. and that is exactly what i am saying, hence the post, what are the point of schems if they are bugged and admins wont paste it? and if you were to see the rest of the post, it states that not only would this be a seperate world, but would also said builders would have extra repercussions to not following rules Admins use schem to paste a spawn if needed because it's going to suck if we keep building new spawns for players
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Post by yes on Nov 23, 2016 20:35:40 GMT
what ever happened to the vps
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Post by jwmphall on Nov 23, 2016 21:07:33 GMT
what ever happened to the vps vps? go on...
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Post by Jacob474747 on Nov 23, 2016 21:47:54 GMT
I disagree. I believe making another world for Master Builders, will cause lag to the server. Admins get to decide if they shall allow OPS, into adminworld.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 9:16:41 GMT
they don't honestly care about ops ._.
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Post by nosamh on Nov 25, 2016 15:40:44 GMT
It would just make the server laggy. I'm
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